Toying Around with Fondant
Filed Under (Baking, Cakes, Sweet Treats) by maida on 27-06-2009
I made LOTS of fondant yesterday (seriously, I used about 6 pounds of sugar!) and experimented a bit:
I’ve always used agar agar flakes to make it, but I was somewhat annoyed with how long it took for them to fully dissolve. This one step often took more than 15 minutes and for something that I don’t necessarily enjoy doing, this was entirely too long. Making fondant, to me, is somewhat of a pain– first you have to sift all that powdered sugar and then you have to wait for the flakes to dissolve. Don’t get me wrong– homemade fondant is so far superior to storebought that it’s worth the effort. But yesterday, I needed to make a batch of white and a few batches of chocolate. That’s potentially 45 minutes or more of just waiting for the agar flakes too dissolve!
Enter agar powder. I’ve tried this before and I think I used too much powder for the amount of water in the recipe. When using powdered agar, generally the ration is 1 tsp of powder to 1 TB of flakes. And in a recipe, you can generally substitute 1:1 agar flakes for gelatin. So I used powder and it did indeed cut down on “dissolve time.”
If you use my fondant recipe, follow as directed, except use about 1 1/2 tsp of agar powder for the agar flakes. You may need to add a little bit more water if it becomes too pasty. The brand of powder I used (pictured left) even has vanilla flavoring in it, so you can get that vanilla taste into your fondant without using vanilla extract, which will give your fondant an off-white color.
Side Note: I found this brand of agar at the Asian market. Be careful when you buy it because it also comes in red and green (as in it has red and green coloring added to it) and all three packages are identical. Read the ingredients list before throwing it into your cart.
The difference between using powder over flakes:
- Once dissolved, the water will become gelatinous, but you are left with more liquid than if you use flakes. This means that you will need much more sugar to get the right consistency. Plan on using more like 9 cups per recipe (which will produce more fondant per batch).
- The consistency of the finished product is near perfect once all of the sugar gets kneaded in. The problem I find when using flakes is that the fondant reaches a perfect consistency after it has been allowed to sit for several days. On the day it’s made, I find it to be a little too soft to use right away.
- You won’t have to worry about having bits of undissolved flakes floating around your fondant.
The verdict for me is that powder is better than flakes here. It dissolves faster and produces a better finished product. My next fondant experiment will be to see if I can use my stand mixer with the dough hook attachment to knead in the sugar, rather than by doing it by hand. The process of kneading in the sugar is very similar to kneading bread dough so it stands to reason that it should work. Stay tuned!















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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Even after trying and
wasting about 2-3 batches of homemade fondant, with flakes or
powder, I was still getting lumpy flecks in my fondant. I will try
again with all the info from your two posts about vegan
fondant.
what does TB denote? table spoon?
Yes, 1TB = 1 tablespoon.
Thank you for your nice recipes
I tried your recipe using the powdered agar but encountered a problem: as soon as i poured the mixture inside the icing well and mixed, the agar mixture started to turn solid! I ended up with fondant that would not take up much icing at all and with hard agar pieces all over! It had to go to the bin unfortunately…
Do you have any idea what caused this? Should i have waited for the agar mixture to cool down a bit before adding to icing sugar??
Are you sure you only used 1 1/2 tsp of the powder? The original recipe calls for 1 TB of flakes, but if you sub powder for the flakes, you only need 1 1/2 tsp. Also, I suppose using a different brand of agar could potentially yield different results. Hmm… other than those possibilities, I’m not sure what happened. I don’t think it’s a result of not letting the agar mixture cool. It hardens as it cools, so it’s best to start mixing when warm. If it turned solid the minute you poured it into the sugar, my suspicion is too much agar and not enough water. If it’s too thick in the pot once the agar is dissolved, don’t be afraid to add more water (it just means you may need a bit more sugar to get the right consistency). Sorry your first batch was a waste! I hope your next one turns out. Let me know how it goes.
Hello…
If I used the same proportions, but halved the quantities would it work? I would like to make a very small quantity of fondant to shape some little figures for a cake topping, but don’t need to cover an entire cake…
Also, I live in Europe, so there is likely a qualititative difference in the agar powder. Just to know what I’m supposed to look for – when the powder has dissolved, will the liquid take on a consistency similar to warm homemade jam (i.e. before the pectin has time to work, so it’s a slightly viscous liquid?)
Thanks, Nima
Hi,
Yes, it should work if you cut the recipe in half. Once the agar is dissolved, it will be viscous and thickened.